Israel and Britain - Zionaxis Brothers

by shahid on May 22, 2007

The Apartheid Wall in Palestine
I noticed this screaming piece in The Guardian today. I try not to let this sort of unbalanced and patently racist, daily drivel dampen my day, but I can’t help it. Injustice, lies, hypocrisy, murder and a complete disregard for human (usually Muslim or Arab) life kind of does that to me you know?

Earlier in the day Tom Phillips, Britain’s ambassador to Israel visited Sderot, “to understand the impact of these latest Qassam attacks and personally to express the sympathy of my government to the people of Sderot”. He said: “The Palestinians must stop these attacks. Israel … has the right to defend itself from such attacks against its civilians. But any response should be in accordance with international law …”

Fair play from the British Ambassador? Hardly. He sides with the racist Zionist occupying murderers. The Nakba-deniers. It doesn’t matter if Israel is right or wrong to Phillips.. There you are. The British fair-play myth busted. Palestinians must stop, Israelis have rights. End of.

Buried later in the article which humanised the poor suffering Sderotian beneficiaries of ethnic-cleansing was this little statistic:

She was the eleventh person to be killed by a rocket fired from Gaza at Israel in the last three years. Around 50 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli reprisals in the last week.

11 Israelis killed in three years by rocket fire.
50 Palestinians killed in the last WEEK.

The whole article tries to humanise the beneficiaries of murder, ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation in a way that makes me nauseous when I consider the plight of Palestinian children living in the concentration-camp that is Gaza. Why are Palestinians never human beings in the British press? Fair-play-myth of the British press busted. Again.

Meanwhile, Israeli leaders spout dangerous rhetoric about wiping out all of democratically elected Hamas, no doubt that rhetoric will soon to be backed up by American weaponry that will shatter yet more beleagured Gazan homes. They target Hamas leadership indiscriminately in the wake of Palestinian and Arab attempts to form a unity government whose raison d’etre was to engage with the Israeli junta in order to deliver some kind of paltry peace dividend. Of course, that was never meant to happen. Every time the Palestinians move towards peace, Israel responds with murder. Would it not be perfectly justifiable for Palestinians to respond in kind? Olmert with a Qassam up his arse would be a fine sight indeed.

Decadence manifests itself in many ways, the most recent example of which made me laugh with unhinged desperation. I refer not to the blaze on the Cutty Sark, but the outpouring of grief by the commenters, some of them crying over a tea clipper that they never saw! Many of the same people regard the deaths of millions of Muslims as statistics and make a mental note to consign such human suffering into the mental recycle bin marked “a necessary goodevil in the War on Terror”. More importantly, where was the grief from many of these people when the stormtroopers of the Zionaxis allowed thousands of years of Babylonian history to be looted and destroyed when they raced to protect the oil wealth they were about to plunder in Iraq?

Later today, there was a story in The Guardian of Israel. It shouldn’t surprise anyone to learn that the name of the Sderoti victim was actually given in the article, a courtesy that is never afforded to Palestinians, unless accompanied by the qualifier “militant” or “terrorist”.

Well right here, let’s redress some of the balance. I know that The Guardian of Israel is read by far more people than my blog, but somebody has got to stand up for the Palestinian dead, because the defenders and lovers of Israel, that nation whose collective soul will surely burn in Hellfire, timelessly, forever, will never let you know the names. First rule of propaganda. Humanise your side, no matter how wrong. Dehumanise the enemy. No matter how right.

On Sunday evening, the Zionist occupiers, the Nakba-deniers, in an ultimately fruitless attempt to ILLEGALLY target and assassinate a democratically elected Hamas leader Khalil Al-Hayyah, “accidentally” murdered the following Palestinians, seven from the same family in a single missile strike:

  1. Nimir Isma’il Al-Hayyah, 60
  2. Bakir Al-Hayyah, 26
  3. Jihad Abdul Hamid Al-Hayyah, 17
  4. Abdul Hamid Al-Hayyah, 35
  5. Ala’ Al-Hayyah, 22
  6. Ibrahim Al-Hayyah, 23
  7. Muhammad Khalid Al-Hayyah, 16
  8. Samih Farawna, 27

Did they hit their intended target? (Targetted assassinations are a crime) - Or, did they miss again? I think they missed again. Oh.

You expect devious, evil behaviour from Israel, they are after all Zionists, just a couple of degrees removed from the Nazis and wholly unrepresentative of real Judaism. What is hard for me to swallow as a Brit is how hypocritical, evil and utterly disdainful my own government and press is. Even the supposedly left-wing press. If anything, the left-wing is worse in its hypocrisy. I’m not too surprised at Phillips. No doubt he sleeps well at night, counting the Palestinian murdered kids instead of sheep, before he nods of blissfully. One day he will wake up in Hell. Ablaze. And the Palestinian kids will say “he was the one who called us terrorists”.

You see, it really is a clash of civilisations. The question that I am finding increasingly easier to answer now, is which side is the “civilisation” and which side is tyrannical, evil, fascistic, hypocritical, dehumanising, degrading, decadent and barbaric.

{ 42 comments… read them below or add one }

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the olive ream 05.23.07 at 4:55 pm

When it comes to Israel, an alternate reality exists for the Western world. Blatant, billegerent bias in favor of Israel, no matter what the truth is, no matter what the ground realities are. Even a quick cursory glance at the history and basic stats about the Palestinian-Israel issue leaves very little doubt in one’s mind who is excessively and routinely at fault there. The same people who complained about the apartheid in South Africa, are now blind to the Israeli system of apartheid that is destroying the Palestinians on a daily basis. Burn in hell, you hyprocritical bastards!

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James White 05.24.07 at 12:07 am

Who’s been raicst to muslims when? No, not us, we only want to help the muslims, we are helping you rebuild Iraq.

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David Eastman 05.24.07 at 12:51 am

Israel still live in a Laager mentality - as if the Zulus will rush them at any minute, despoiling their virgin daughters in the process.

The West seems very patient with this mental fragility when it should be slapping them heavily around the head until they wake up to the present. Instead, the War on Terror insists we join in on Isarael’s delusion.

So yes, the same people who saw through apartheid seem strangely confused by the same thing happening again. I doubt they are blind, just spending too much time with the strange little boy in the corner who everyone else is shunning.

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shahid 05.24.07 at 1:09 am

David, that certainly appears to be xymphora’s repeated take on it, that the US and Britain (and just about everyone else) is buying into Israel’s delusion. I’m not sure I quite buy that.

What if it isn’t delusion though? What if there are some clever people in the Whitehouse? What if this is all deliberate?

And what if there really is a clash of civilisations? (It would seem odd given that the “other side” is more commonly described in very unflattering terms)

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Canadian Garry 05.24.07 at 10:55 am

Hello Paki, how are U?

So U hate Zionism, ok lets look at the meaning

Zionism - a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

So in the same context do you hate muslim movements that resulted in establishment and development of the islamic states? say Pakistan for instance by killing non-muslims in Pakistan.

What say U paki? Are we hypocrites here? Is you head stuck up your filthy stinking smelly shit infested arsehole? Well? Cat got your tongue?

Laters arsehole.

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shahid 05.24.07 at 11:40 am

I delete many comments like the above on a daily basis, though usually other comments don’t even attempt to make a point, unlike Garry (or is it Gary?) above. I just wanted people to see an example of how hateful so many people are becoming Amazing how people base so much hate on such misguidedness….but then look at their leaders….

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Iqbal 05.24.07 at 1:52 pm

Shahid, Bro, forget Gary, his culture and civilisation is finished, the muslims will rule the world soon. and soon we will convert everyone to islam, those that don’t will die. Especial racist canadians like him who can’t accept other people’s religion.
Inshallah
Iqbal.

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Tahir 05.25.07 at 5:32 am

Mr. Iqbal, can you explain how those people are going to die who don’t accept Islam? Are you gonna kill them or what? Or there’ll be some lightening and they all will be dead? Sir, you don’t convert people to Islam and then you surely don’t kill them. You just INVITE them to Islam. They accept or not, it is between them and Allah (SWT).

Your comment is gonna make other people think we kill those people who deny Islam. Be careful when you give comments.

Thank you!

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Kara Swart 05.25.07 at 11:12 pm

Why are Pakistani’s so hassled about Arabs being victimised? The Arabs don’t give a damn about the Pakistanis. Maybe VS Naipaul was right..

Understand one simple thing. Everything is God’s creation. God rules. What has happened is good, what is happening is good and what shall happen is good. Else you must believe that God does not rule. Don’t get your knickers in a twist..relax…

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KosmikK 05.26.07 at 1:02 am

I can understand the anger you feel Shahid. Though not Muslim I too feel a great anger at the cowardly and racist way in which our politicians and media behave.

Politicians are a curse on humanity and should be replaced by people’s assemblies. And the media should also be controlled by an independent committee of the people.

Israel is a curse to the planet. Pity a big hole hasn’t appeared to swallow it up. In Britain, as elsewhere, we are on course for a NWO totalitarian, police state. If ever there was a time when a revolution was needed it is now.

A revolution IS taking place in other parts of the world like Latin America which we don’t get to hear of much from a hostile western media.

As for the GUARDIAN, Simon Tisdall’s latest war propaganda shite is really rebounding on this warmongering rag. Increasingly, folk are turning away from their evil to seek the truth elsewhere such as in blogs like yours. So be strong, don’t give up now or ever!

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shahid 05.26.07 at 9:02 am

KosmiKK - many thanks for your words of wisdom, support and kindness!

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Ehsan 05.27.07 at 5:22 am

It’s no delusion, but an attemp at deluding others. Here is “Sir” Winston Churchill from 1937 speaking about Palestine I believe:

“I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.”

And lets not forget that earlier — as pointed out by Chris Floyd:

“in 1919, Churchill called for airborne chemical assaults on ‘uncooperative Arabs’ (actually Kurds and Afghans, but your great men need not make such petty distinctions). ‘I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas,’ he declared. ‘I am strongly in favor of using poison gas against uncivilized tribes..’ Some years later, a certain A. Hitler would apply this gaseous philosophy to another troublesome ‘tribe.”

And it was he who asked British scientists to cook up “a new kind of weather” for the citizens of Dresden.

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shahid 05.27.07 at 11:31 am

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Homer Simpson 05.29.07 at 4:17 pm

you dirty fucking sand nigger, dont like Britain? Got a Problem with our Government?

Simple fuck off back to paki land or stop fucking moaning.

Why live here and just fucking moan?

Why live here and try to convert everyone to dIslam?

Are you trying to cause a civil war?

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David Eastman 05.29.07 at 11:15 pm

For a policeman, he’s quite bright.

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steve brown 06.01.07 at 10:12 am

Homer Simpson - Your splutterings aren’t intelligent enough even for the cartoon character, you knuckle dragging moron. Get back to capitalist racist Russia where your boneheaded unthoughts and low IQ would be appreciated in their meat packing factories and chicken processing plants. It’s all your fit for. Other than f*cking pigs. And wtf is “dIslam” - you can’t even spell let alone think you brain dead loser.

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Neil 06.01.07 at 6:41 pm

I don’t believe anybody should try and convert anybody to anything. By all means set an example that others may want to embrace and follow.
Too much hate and division in the world, most of it based round belong to this or that club society race or religion.

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shahid 06.01.07 at 10:20 pm

Well said Neil.

Examples and exemplars, let’s have a few of those…

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jamal 06.03.07 at 12:46 am

Good article. It is the duty of us all to defend the Palestinian causes, denounce the Israeli/Zionist crimes and criticise the disastrous Israeli policy of expansion and oppression in Palestine.

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Tahir 06.04.07 at 5:46 am

Palestinian Loss of Land (1946-2000)
http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=1305

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tahirikbal 06.04.07 at 5:47 am

Palestinian loss of land 1946-2000
http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=1305

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tahirikbal 06.04.07 at 6:00 am

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tahirikbal 06.04.07 at 6:15 am

The Palestinian loss of land 1946-2000
http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=1305

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Tahir 06.05.07 at 4:50 am

Oops… I didn’t intend to flood this post with my replies but WordPress was probably having troubles or something that whenever I clicked “Submit Comment”, page refreshed and no confirmation of whether the comment has been posted or not.

I’m sorry about it, Shahid Bhai

Tahir/TahirIkbal

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Mike 06.10.07 at 4:07 pm

Shahid,

Don’t delete the posts. Let the idiots spout their brainless nonsense and show the world how weak they really are if that’s the only arguement they can come up with.

Great site btw!!

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shahid 06.10.07 at 4:43 pm

Thanks Mike!

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Geordie 07.01.07 at 9:45 am

its quite simple you morons!

you come to england, you live by our way or you pack your bags (bombs) take down your mosques and fuck right off back to where you came from.

I dont fear white people blowing us up but funny how every attack of late has been an asian. If you dont want to live here with our communities (which you lot very rarely do - you house yourself in black communities being extremely ignorant of english customs) then off you go back to pakistan/india/saudi arabia/iraq/iran etc…. your after one thing, an easy ride!!

GO HOME!! nobody wants you, and if your after a civil war you will most likely get one sooner rather than later if you keep blowing us up.

Burn the mosques before the white get too angry and do it for you.

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shahid 07.01.07 at 11:17 am

Dear “Geordie”

1) I was born here. My father was born in India, then part of the British Empire. As a subject of the Empire, he was allowed free movement throughout the realm. Last I heard, Britain was the centre of the (deceased) Empire and so I am as “British” as you in every sense, even if I am not “white”.

2) Even if you are white, what does that mean? Is it just the colour brown you have an aversion to? Then I should point out that Britain sports an ever-growing number of white Muslims.

3) It was a white person that blew people up in Soho not that long ago. And before that, white people (from the IRA) were blowing stuff up.

4) I live in a very mixed community, as do many Muslims. What are English customs? Is civility one of those customs? In which case, you are less “English” than me. If English customs were exemplified by Jade Goody, and non-English by Shilpa Shetty, then I am happy to be in the latter camp.

5) My father never had an easy ride, and neither did I. We believe in a strong work ethic, but you are barking up the wrong tree. Ordinary people like you and I have a lot more in common than those who seek to divide us. Just as I don’t listen to extremists, neither should you.

Burning mosques will do no more good than any other wanton act of pointless violence.

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Geordie 07.01.07 at 5:24 pm

Dear “shahid”,

I talked of attacks as of late. being 25 i can literally only speak for the here and now i’m afraid. And right now, i dont fear white people blowing me up at my local airport or at my local train station.

why is it that you live in your own little communities having nothing to do with other communities/faiths??

At some point (as in yoru case it was your father) people have come over from elsewhere to live here! why, if they are not interested in living by our way… and means interacting in the community.. speaking english… it really annoys me when i go out and all i hear is punjabi or whatever.. thats not interacting with the community its living a seperate ilfe to the way most people live in teh country…

i dont see too many white english people joining up to this ‘jihad’ or whatever they call it and trying to kill each other… yes the IRA did go through quite a spell of violence etc.. but remember they are not english and there was dispicible reasons behind it yes but that is history.. i’m talking about the here and now…

which religion blew up the train stations/buses killing their ‘fellow nationalists’? which religion blew up the twin towers and so on and so forth?

surely you see my point!

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Geordie 07.01.07 at 5:26 pm

and for another matter whilst the IRA did set off explosives they always sent a warning… shows slightly (just) more consience than the asians..

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lwtc247 07.02.07 at 6:09 pm

Canadian Garry Cats not got my tounge Garry. Allow the action of my tongue to be expressed by my fingers…

“Zionism - a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.” LOL. Good try. Pity your attempt is noticeable within microseconds. You see Garry, your say “lets look at the meaning” but your “explanation” of zionism is anything but. All you do is mention a result of Zionism, not what Zionism is. Oh dear Garry. Here’s a tip: Post at Fox where you lovely prose would be more palletable amongst your commrades.

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lwtc247 07.02.07 at 6:16 pm

Dear: Homer ‘the biggot’ Simpson.
And to those ‘indigenous’ brits that hate what their Government is doing??? Some have white skin. Oh no! That removes your ability to spew forth your racist hate. What ya gonna do Homer? What ya gonna do?

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lwtc247 07.02.07 at 6:27 pm

If I may be so bold…
When Muslims mean ‘convert’ people to Islam, they dont mean waterboarding, shipping them to Guantanamo or whatever. No. They actually mean, by letting people know about Islam, discussing it, espousing its virtues, eluding to what Neil (June 1st, 2007 at 6:41 pm) says. It’s just the word “Converting” has taken on a sinister meaning, not least becasue of “Christian” history of forced conversions, but also becasue the word has been been used in that very same sinisterising way by the largely Islamophobic media. OK ok, I can accept that some will be a bit ‘in your face’ about it and questionable/strange writings like “those that don’t will die.” dont help, {why would a ‘Muslim’ say such a thing???} but keep things in perspective. Muslims are very much in the main peaceful people. They want the same things as everyone else - to live in peace and security, free from tyrrany.

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lwtc247 07.02.07 at 6:30 pm

Hadaway ‘n ……. Geordie.

Geordie says “GO HOME!! nobody wants you,” - I do.

NEXT!

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lwtc247 07.02.07 at 6:47 pm

Geordie. Lost a bag a Tudor lad?
What of UK collusion with the IRA? Read up about stakeknife mate.

What of the English in the days their Imperial expansion. How many Brits spoke punjabi, wore Dhoti? How many lived in the slums of Calcutta rather than in ‘gated’ communities. How many socialised with the Indian populations? Then what about South Africa? Canada, Malaysia, Aboriginal Australia……
Lets look closer to home… The Spanish costas. If you hear a word of Spanish there or see anything other than fish and chips on the menu, be a good chap and do let me know.

The point is, nobody should be forced to do what any group wants to impose. Its called tolerance. If that means that it takes a few generations of Asians to converse in English and adopt things you consider to be British, then so be it.

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The Antagonist 07.03.07 at 12:51 am

Geordie: For a brief introduction to the history of alleged Irish terrorism — alleged in the same way as “Islamic” terrorism is alleged — in Northern Ireland and on mainland Britain, may I suggest you look into the Guildford 4, the Birmingham 6, the Maguire 7, Judith Ward, Danny MacNamee and lawyer Patrick Finucane, among many others.

The troubles in Ireland were played out as sectarian violence but, in fact, there was nothing sectarian about it. It was a battle for land as the Irish were rather miffed that the British had stolen the land from under their feet a very long time ago and have repeatedly refused to give it back.

Just because the system locks people up, or shoots them dead as in the case of Patrick Finucane and Jean Charles de Menezes, doesn’t always mean they’re guilty. Recent history in Britain teaches us that, as does the history of any period in time when the State perceived any sort of threat from the masses to its existence and posturing dominance.

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lwtc247 07.03.07 at 7:35 am

Sorry to appear to be flooding this thread, but…
The English are always moaning amongst themselves about being monolingual, and many feels a bit ‘thick’ (correct expression escapes me for now) at not being able to speak another language. For those that have or are aquiring these skills, would you object to people practicising it on the streets of the UK? Language is something that needs to be practiced. So, people speaking French the streets of the UK would upset you, or is it just Urdu / Punjabi - you know “brown” languages?

Many Muslims are at least bingual. Their linguistic ability is something to look up to.

Your imposition of monoculture is actually in stark contrast the the history of the lands which you project a love for. British culture and even its language is a mish mash of foreign influence and is one of the latin off-shoots. Perhaps you dont muind this becasue it contains elements of ‘whiteness’ in it.

Do you believe in {hijacked}evolution? If so, what was the colour of the first humans? they were African right? You are the descendat of black people. Ha ha. Have a nice life.

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Geordie 07.03.07 at 8:20 pm

Yes it would piss me off if they lived here.. came over to work here, came over to live in OUR culture and our country.. i would feel really out of place and not right moving to another country for long period and only speaking english…

as for your ‘brown’ languages.. grow up and stick another nan bread on… honestly! its all about poor you poor you…. bla bla!

i grew up with ‘brown’ people as you would put it and got on very well with them, they spoke english went to the same school as us, mixed with everyone not just their own communities etc… so no problem…

problems start however when the arrogance and self segregation happens… pathetic and no need!

why cant you speak ‘white’ language anyway?? same applies….

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shahid 07.03.07 at 8:37 pm

So Geordie, it’s not an “Asian” problem at all then is it? No point in being racist if you got on with other brown people, is there?

I think you are frightened of different culture, which is probably not racism at all. In fact, I don’t believe you are racist.

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lwtc247 07.04.07 at 1:26 am

Well Geordie.
Why did you tell me to “stick another nan on”? You believe I am Asian becasue I welcome Asians to this country and respect their right to lead life the way they want to (which I believe you would resent say a fascist government say from telling you how to lead your life) ? The way your mind conspired to ‘make’ me Asian, becasue you don’t agree with me is telling. You are casting our difference of opinion in terms of race becasue that is how your mind envisiges opposition. It’s an underlying racist construct, but dont worry, It seems subconscious, and I believe is common amongst many people.

I used the term ‘brown’ language becasue clearly you are hung-up somewhat on ‘brown’ issues. I was conversing with you on your frequency, but I notice I didn’t get an answer. Neither did I get any response from you regarding the Brits that went overseas when the UK was an occupying imperial power.

I think I am correct in saying ALL the young Asian generation speak English. Some of the older generation have problems for obvious (mostly cognitive) reasons. You said yourself, the ‘browns’ in your school spoke English. It seems like the timeline for them, and perhaps moreso the elder generation, to adopt a more Britocentric approach is too slow for you, but actually they are taking on many things that loosely fall under the poorly defined umbrella of Britishness.

Re: Seggregation. I think ALL societies display this, including as I’ve indicated, monolingual Brits

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lwtc247 07.04.07 at 1:28 am

post was truncates…

old : Re: Seggregation. I think ALL societies display this, including as I’ve indicated, monolingual Brits…. {Continues:}… - very much so! . It’s human nature. People will more often than not, want to be closer to those that they feel they have more in common with. For example, if they speak Urdu, they probably like movies in Urdi and so there may well go together to watch an Urdu movie. The may well have dietry requirments whereby after the movie, they have to go to a special restaurant. Asians are also known to have large extended families. They place very high importance on family ties and so spend a lot of time with relatives. When they first came here, some faced employment difficulties and so opened up theri own businesses. Like anyone who owns a business, they have a right to hire family members, and they often do. Observations of humans makes me believe taht humans sexually prefer their own race; I dont know why exactly (and I dont hold that view personally) and so they may ‘idolise’ asian musicians and bollywood stard and so on.

ALL these examples are cases where it may give the appearance of seggregation. I dont think that in most cases its deliberate, just a result of belonging to a different culture. Its not logical to presume otherwise.

Remember many of these older generation Asians were invited to the UK. They were not told you can only do so if you adandon the culture and traditions (or religion) you love.

Suggestion: Talk to some people who you feel are seggregated to your house for a meal and a chat on culture and what have you. Get to hear their side of the story. I believe it will be a fruitful exercise.

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RAB 03.15.08 at 3:04 pm

yes i am islamaphobic .
yes i support israel .
yes i wish we had a lot less open door policy .to every tom dick n harry .
no i would not apologise for our past .
yes there will be a clash of civilisations which the west greco .christian jew,hindu buddist alliance will prevail .
sad yes ,wish it was otherwise but its not .
we are all being manipulated , we will have to pick a side as it will come down to survival power and influence in the end .
do i like it know .
is there another way ?
cant see it ?
do i discriminate ?
yes all the time we all do ?
do i have predjudices and faults yes i do …
but then we all do so what …
if it boils down to a fight as it will in the end then my tribe the scots will be right in amongst it as we always have been .well some of us at any rate …
i really wish reality was otherwise but it is not ..
so best we get to the point get on with it and sort out the ruling order for the next few generations ….
i have travelled ext i am not at home in islamic countries .
i am in buddist ,christian hindu and jewish ..
why is that ?
i have triedc ?/
reallly really tried ….i have an eurocentric view ,i am white celtic i am proud of most of my heritage and i for one will die to defend it shoud the need arise as i believe it will .
old mohammed will sadly be dragged onto the streets as the brit lions turn sick of there tails and hospitality being thrown in there face and savage ,mohammed ,asif ,iqbal ,and blah blah blah

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