One thing that amazes me especially with regards to the main report over the Israel/Palestine conflict and the subsequent abuse that some is that nobody has spotted the irony of it all. Islam and Christianity are brothers, by this I mean without Judeism neither would probably exsist. Yes there are differences; we believe in Jesus as the son of God whlist the Muslims accept him but as a prophet. The Koran and the Bible are both similar in the way human beings are expected to live their lives we even have similar traditions for example Ramadam and Lent where we are both supposed to give things up for a certain period of time.

All Muslims I have met are extremely respectful towards my culture as I am theirs, as I am sure is a similar situation amongst most other people. The probelm is the minority always shouts over the majority which is when troubles and prejudices arise. Its not the religions or cultures that are the problems its those people within all cultures that are xenophobic that need to grow up.

old : Re: Seggregation. I think ALL societies display this, including as I’ve indicated, monolingual Brits…. {Continues:}… – very much so! . It’s human nature. People will more often than not, want to be closer to those that they feel they have more in common with. For example, if they speak Urdu, they probably like movies in Urdi and so there may well go together to watch an Urdu movie. The may well have dietry requirments whereby after the movie, they have to go to a special restaurant. Asians are also known to have large extended families. They place very high importance on family ties and so spend a lot of time with relatives. When they first came here, some faced employment difficulties and so opened up theri own businesses. Like anyone who owns a business, they have a right to hire family members, and they often do. Observations of humans makes me believe taht humans sexually prefer their own race; I dont know why exactly (and I dont hold that view personally) and so they may ‘idolise’ asian musicians and bollywood stard and so on.

ALL these examples are cases where it may give the appearance of seggregation. I dont think that in most cases its deliberate, just a result of belonging to a different culture. Its not logical to presume otherwise.

Remember many of these older generation Asians were invited to the UK. They were not told you can only do so if you adandon the culture and traditions (or religion) you love.

Suggestion: Talk to some people who you feel are seggregated to your house for a meal and a chat on culture and what have you. Get to hear their side of the story. I believe it will be a fruitful exercise.

I used the term ‘brown’ language becasue clearly you are hung-up somewhat on ‘brown’ issues. I was conversing with you on your frequency, but I notice I didn’t get an answer. Neither did I get any response from you regarding the Brits that went overseas when the UK was an occupying imperial power.

I think I am correct in saying ALL the young Asian generation speak English. Some of the older generation have problems for obvious (mostly cognitive) reasons. You said yourself, the ‘browns’ in your school spoke English. It seems like the timeline for them, and perhaps moreso the elder generation, to adopt a more Britocentric approach is too slow for you, but actually they are taking on many things that loosely fall under the poorly defined umbrella of Britishness.

Re: Seggregation. I think ALL societies display this, including as I’ve indicated, monolingual Brits

I think you are frightened of different culture, which is probably not racism at all. In fact, I don’t believe you are racist.

as for your ‘brown’ languages.. grow up and stick another nan bread on… honestly! its all about poor you poor you…. bla bla!

i grew up with ‘brown’ people as you would put it and got on very well with them, they spoke english went to the same school as us, mixed with everyone not just their own communities etc… so no problem…

problems start however when the arrogance and self segregation happens… pathetic and no need!

why cant you speak ‘white’ language anyway?? same applies….

Many Muslims are at least bingual. Their linguistic ability is something to look up to.

Your imposition of monoculture is actually in stark contrast the the history of the lands which you project a love for. British culture and even its language is a mish mash of foreign influence and is one of the latin off-shoots. Perhaps you dont muind this becasue it contains elements of ‘whiteness’ in it.

Do you believe in {hijacked}evolution? If so, what was the colour of the first humans? they were African right? You are the descendat of black people. Ha ha. Have a nice life.

The troubles in Ireland were played out as sectarian violence but, in fact, there was nothing sectarian about it. It was a battle for land as the Irish were rather miffed that the British had stolen the land from under their feet a very long time ago and have repeatedly refused to give it back.

Just because the system locks people up, or shoots them dead as in the case of Patrick Finucane and Jean Charles de Menezes, doesn’t always mean they’re guilty. Recent history in Britain teaches us that, as does the history of any period in time when the State perceived any sort of threat from the masses to its existence and posturing dominance.

What of the English in the days their Imperial expansion. How many Brits spoke punjabi, wore Dhoti? How many lived in the slums of Calcutta rather than in ‘gated’ communities. How many socialised with the Indian populations? Then what about South Africa? Canada, Malaysia, Aboriginal Australia……
Lets look closer to home… The Spanish costas. If you hear a word of Spanish there or see anything other than fish and chips on the menu, be a good chap and do let me know.

The point is, nobody should be forced to do what any group wants to impose. Its called tolerance. If that means that it takes a few generations of Asians to converse in English and adopt things you consider to be British, then so be it.

Geordie says “GO HOME!! nobody wants you,” – I do.

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