Comments on: رمضان مبارك http://suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/ Islamophobia means never having to admit you're racist Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:01:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: lwtc247 http://suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/comment-page-1/#comment-2339 lwtc247 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:19:28 +0000 http://www.suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/#comment-2339 I understand what you are saying about needing to understand Arabic to understand properly the Quran, but I honestly struggle to accept that Arabic gives understanding that any other language cant. We all understand by experience and emotions. An object or concept used in Arab culture can be described, albeit ineffienyly, by a paragraph or page of explanatory text in a foreign language surely? If one can learn to understand Arabic then one can describe the Arabic text. I am of course probably shamefully negating the power of Allah to grant extra cognitive perception to those who study the True Arabic Quran (I am not denying the Only true Quran is Arabic), so I think I've destroyed my earlier point. Allah hu Akbar afterall. Se let me end up agreeing with you. But, Scholars of Islam who have Arabic as their native tounge also get meaning from a range of different interpretatons from Arabic text. Within that spectrum of interpretaton, isn't the translated version encapsulated? Wishing you plenty of Baraqa (blessings) this Ramadan. P.S. I find the weightage put on reading the Quran puzzling, when it should be the understanding and implementation of what they spend so much time reading that should surely be the most significant part of Islam. Oh well, perhaps another poor thought by me. I understand what you are saying about needing to understand Arabic to understand properly the Quran, but I honestly struggle to accept that Arabic gives understanding that any other language cant. We all understand by experience and emotions. An object or concept used in Arab culture can be described, albeit ineffienyly, by a paragraph or page of explanatory text in a foreign language surely? If one can learn to understand Arabic then one can describe the Arabic text.

I am of course probably shamefully negating the power of Allah to grant extra cognitive perception to those who study the True Arabic Quran (I am not denying the Only true Quran is Arabic), so I think I’ve destroyed my earlier point. Allah hu Akbar afterall. Se let me end up agreeing with you.

But, Scholars of Islam who have Arabic as their native tounge also get meaning from a range of different interpretatons from Arabic text. Within that spectrum of interpretaton, isn’t the translated version encapsulated?

Wishing you plenty of Baraqa (blessings) this Ramadan.

P.S. I find the weightage put on reading the Quran puzzling, when it should be the understanding and implementation of what they spend so much time reading that should surely be the most significant part of Islam. Oh well, perhaps another poor thought by me.

]]> By: shahid http://suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/comment-page-1/#comment-2338 shahid Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:37:13 +0000 http://www.suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/#comment-2338 To my beloved brothers and sisters in Islam, jazakallah khayr for your kindness. Alhamdulillah, I am much better nowadays than I have been in some time, despite the odd setback. My spirits are good, I am filled with optimism and delighted to have such friendship and support. Brother Fuad, for some reason, your comment had its Arabic changed to question marks. I have no idea why Wordpress does this, but I think the only way around it is to escape the characters Unicode style. A real pain, I know. My post caused me problems until I learned that the UTF-8 codepage needs to be changed to Microsoft's cp1252 in the Wordpress administration panel. It appears that this change has not been applied to comments. Any ideas on how to manage this better would be much appreciated. To my beloved brothers and sisters in Islam, jazakallah khayr for your kindness. Alhamdulillah, I am much better nowadays than I have been in some time, despite the odd setback. My spirits are good, I am filled with optimism and delighted to have such friendship and support.

Brother Fuad, for some reason, your comment had its Arabic changed to question marks. I have no idea why WordPress does this, but I think the only way around it is to escape the characters Unicode style. A real pain, I know.

My post caused me problems until I learned that the UTF-8 codepage needs to be changed to Microsoft’s cp1252 in the WordPress administration panel. It appears that this change has not been applied to comments.

Any ideas on how to manage this better would be much appreciated.

]]> By: Fuad http://suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/comment-page-1/#comment-2340 Fuad Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:48:16 +0000 http://www.suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/#comment-2340 Dearest brother Shahid, ?????? ????? ? ???? ???? ? ?????? Ramadaan Mubaarak ????? ????? to you too. I am happy to read your beautiful summary about Ramadaan, but at the same time it is quite disturbing to know that your health is not good these days. May Allah (SWT) cure your illness and ease your suffering and pain. Ameen. Brother, try to find comfort in the good news given by the holy Prophet (SAAW). He (SAAW) said ?There is nothing - in the form of trouble- that comes to a Muslim even if it is the pricking of a thorn that there is decreed for him by Allah good or his sins are obliterated?. (Reported by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim). ???? ????? Dearest brother Shahid,

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Ramadaan Mubaarak ????? ????? to you too.

I am happy to read your beautiful summary about Ramadaan, but at the same time it is quite disturbing to know that your health is not good these days. May Allah (SWT) cure your illness and ease your suffering and pain. Ameen.

Brother, try to find comfort in the good news given by the holy Prophet (SAAW). He (SAAW) said ?There is nothing – in the form of trouble- that comes to a Muslim even if it is the pricking of a thorn that there is decreed for him by Allah good or his sins are obliterated?. (Reported by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim).

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]]> By: Navcity http://suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/comment-page-1/#comment-2341 Navcity Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:00:34 +0000 http://www.suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/#comment-2341 Ramadhan mubarak/kareem. May it bring you all peace and blessings in abundance. Shahid bhai hope you're health improves. Remember me in your du'as. Allah Ma'ak/Allah Hafez Nav Ramadhan mubarak/kareem. May it bring you all peace and blessings in abundance.

Shahid bhai hope you’re health improves. Remember me in your du’as.

Allah Ma’ak/Allah Hafez

Nav

]]> By: Tahir http://suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/comment-page-1/#comment-2342 Tahir Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:31:37 +0000 http://www.suspectpaki.com/2007/09/13/%d8%b1%d9%85%d8%b6%d8%a7%d9%86-%d9%85%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%83/#comment-2342 Ramadan Mubarak to you as well, Shahid Bhai. May Allah give you best health and guide all of us to right path. (Ameen) Ramadan Mubarak to you as well, Shahid Bhai. May Allah give you best health and guide all of us to right path. (Ameen)

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