I feel like Charlton Heston’s character “Taylor” did in the Planet of the Apes. You remember, that upside-down world where apes ruled over men? Our world seems like that nowadays.
On occasion I read the excellent forum of the J7 Truth team and find some of the contributors distasteful, because they epitomise some of the characters in the world Taylor found himself in. If you remember the scene when Taylor tries to defend himself in front of the ape court and gets the now legendary “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” response from the judges, you’ll know exactly what I’m talking about.
I read the hostility and name-calling, realising dejectedly that these people are “mainstream” influencers. It gets me a little down.
I’ve been trying to work out why, but until today, no single sentence encapsulated the dysphoria that engulfed me every time I read some intellectual lightweight or faux-left gatekeeper spew forth a hasbara parrot-like response to anyone who dared question the risible short-story that is the “official narrative of 7/7″.
Let’s take a ludicrous diversion for the sake of analysis with an extract of Popular Mechanics’ Editorial response to the “demolition theory”, taken from the Editorial Notes section of the print version, and absent from the on-line version:
[T]hose who peddle fantasies that this country encouraged, permitted or actually carried out the attacks are libeling the truth — and disgracing the memories of the thousands who died that day.
The 9/11 Truth movement does have its problems and the biggest is that it puts its stake in the ground – several stakes and several pieces of ground come to think of it.
The J7 Truth team, despite enormous pressure and to its immense credit, has never backed an alternative theory of what happened and so cannot be smeared with the label “conspiracy theorists” (or more derisively by certain self-obsessed, self-aggrandising and shrill commentators, “conspiraloon“, a tag which has been playfully adopted by a small, but growing band of wonderful people, including me of course…)
Regardless of the various positions of the various 9/11 Truth movements and notwithstanding the possibility that some of these are gatekeepers, plants and other shady so-and-sos, the Popular Mechanics sentiment comes across as shrill, divisive and pejorative. Why would anyone seeking the truth be “disgracing the memories of the thousands who died that day”?
Since when did it become offensive to memory to ask what really happened? I mean, is it offensive to Jill Dando’s memory that Barry George has after many years of asking questions about what really happened been released from prison?
Was it offensive that the Guildford Four or the Birmingham Six or the Tipton Three were released? Is it justice these gatekeepers want or blood? I suspect the latter.
Take this series of quotes from someone in TV, taken from the forum:
Don’t have nightmares about the boogie man coming to get you. Except you Bridget, difficult to get out of your head I guess, once someone’s mentioned it …
The above is a quite shocking, personal and frankly, sinister thing to say to someone, especially to a lady. Imagine the outcry if someone had said something along those lines to the daughter of Norfolk, the darling of the gatekeepers; a lady whose name I cannot mention for fear of getting sued or stalked or worse?
Then this character goes on to edit a post and attributes the following “edit” to “The Antagonist“, doing the gatekeeper/Zionist thing of calling anyone who asks questions an anti-Semite.
Disgusting language I’m sure you agree. We do not allow people to be nasty about the July 7th bombers here, heck they were only doing what they thought was right. And we do not allow racism either. Except against the Jews of course. We don’t like them at all.
Funny that he should make this accusation when he himself is guilty of racist hatred with the following gems in the same thread:
And also that the filth who gave them succour and help are safely behind bars weeping into their pillows every night and praying to Allah that they don’t drop the soap in the shower.
Since 2005, thousands of Afghans and tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims have died as a result of the Crusade. On an atrocity scale, I would reserve the tag “filth” for some of those mass-murderers and if the above is true, and let’s face it, being done for having a CD that you didn’t even load and the contents of which are available on American servers is hardly a crime worthy of comparison to dropping a thermobaric bomb onto a wedding, then the tag “misguided” might be more appropriate.
Why the reference to “Allah”? This guy is not a Muslim, the reference is made as a barb against Islam in general. It’s a technique used by a lot of these gatekeepers using hasbara techniques. As for racism, well surely, “Muslims are not a race” means it’s OK to condemn the lot of them, right?
I’ll let the incendiary and insightful Dr. M answer this one:
Lie#612 : Islam isn’t a race hence abuse of Muslims is in no way or form racist.
My, my, my, aren’t they so very clever? Insistence that Islam isn’t a race and therefore representations of Islam cannot be racist is disingenuous rubbish. Religion is not only about faith but also about identity, background and culture, and Muslims are overwhelmingly non-white. In the mind of the hate mongers, Islam is a religion of non-whites and white race traitors. They see black skin and head scarves the same way. Being Jewish used to be simply a religious identity. With the rise of capitalism, it was transmuted into a racial one. What we are seeing today is the opposite process with Islam. If we must be so asinine as to insist upon using skin color as a determinant of race, I would ask why the Muslims represented in Islamophobic filth never EVER look like Indonesian Muslims, even though it is the most populous Muslim country on the planet. The reason is simple: Muslims are seen and stereotyped as a “race,” especially as dark skinned, unkempt Arabs and Pakistanis.
I’ve said this myself in the past of course, but Dr. M says it better.
There is more disgusting and personal stuff from a man who claims to be intelligent and rational:
You’re right of course Bridget, they are all out to get you. Mooslims, the police, Baader Meinhoff, the Russians. I don’t know how you sleep at night for worrying, I should be careful a bear doesn’t leap on you while you’re wiping your arse.
(Emphasis mine). Again, is this how you talk to a lady? And the reference to “Mooslims”, well that makes me cringe in the way that a white guy who doesn’t know me very well saying “nigger” or “paki” does. (Not that I’m suggesting APed is white, I haven’t a clue and don’t care either way)
Then this kind of sinister and distasteful veiled threat:
Blimey, you lot are paranoid enough as it is, don’t want to tip you over the edge and cause some kind of nasty shotgun in the mouth incident!
And the personal tirade against Bridget continued:
Good grief woman, your level of paranoia is around about certifiable levels. It’s a wonder you feel able to walk around in public. I hope they don’t put you in chanrge of any heavy machinery at that factory of yours.
Bridget, to her immense credit, did not rise to the bait, despite filth like this:
That Bridget girl, do you think she’s…y’know…quite right in the head? No really, I’m not being mean, I’m trying to be understanding. I mean something must have made her all stressy. Do you think she might be in serious need of a man?
More proportion from the Islamophobe:
They’re dead thank God and the vermin that helped them out, like this shit for brains Khalid Khaliq and Babar Ahmad (look them up in Wikipedia – what nice people they are!) got banged up and – with luck – got severely sliced for their efforts by some East End gangster or two.
This kind of baiting and hating isn’t new. What is perplexing is that these people think anyone who questions the official version of events deserves this kind of vitriol and to coin a phrase (not my language) “shits on the graves of the dead”.
“Once a government resorts to terror against its own population to get what it wants, it must keep using terror against its own population to get what it wants. A government that terrorizes its own people can never stop. If such a government ever lets the fear subside and rational thought return to the populace, that government is finished.”
Michael Rivero
I don’t know what happened on 7/7. It might well be that the men who are accused of suicide bombing themselves and 52 innocent people were really guilty. It might be that they were not. I don’t believe that a government who lied to take us to war and is therefore guilty of the most heinous crime is beyond withholding the truth about any other important matter.
What I refuse to take part in is some bizarre conflation of Islam with 7/7 or any other terrorist incident, which is what the gatekeepers like APed want (otherwise why keep referring to religion and Islam and terrorism?)
In every discussion I’ve seen, the hatred and the propaganda and the smears and the threats come only from gatekeepers and mainstream media figures.
So the sentence? What was the thought that helped me to reverse the upside-down world? It is simply this:
Those people who do not question power, when that very power has lied to us and stripped us of our liberties and stolen our wealth, it is they who disgrace the memories of those who died.
Like the innocent Jean Charles de Menezes, the inquest of whose execution starts tomorrow, they deserve the truth.
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Many people who are critical of ‘conspiracy theorists’ do so simply because they have been programmed to do so. Some critics might even have gone so far as to research things themselves but have still decided that ‘conspiracies’ don’t hold up
I personally wouldn’t consider any of these people as wicked, just misguided
But there are others who are genuinely nasty pieces of work and who take advantage of the prevailing media negativity towards Muslims and any who doubt ‘Official Narratives’ to work out and express their grubby little hang-ups and hatreds
The same kind of creeps who’d pick on the weakest kid in the playground, once they’d safely established that everyone else was ripping on that kid already
Superb ! Shahid – i couldn’t agree more or put it any better myself, that ‘aped’ character seems confused to this day what he’s done wrong, bless his little cotton socks
some day, perhaps he’ll understand – or leave his job – it certainly appears as though you’d need to be paid to be that much of a cunt
if i can say cunt here, that is
Hi Shahid,
It’s become apparent to me, in recent years, that the (political) truth is “whatever you make people believe”. I’m not sure whether politicians have become more bulshit prone, people have become more gullible or if cynicism has started to activate portions of my brain that were previously switched off.
I awoke this morning to BBC news (clearly, the zenith of truth) reports that ……………” Jean Charles de Menezes was accidently shot by police…..”
I checked the BBC news website and found that the words “accidently shot” were not present and that there was no option to leave a comment. On that basis, I had to go to sky news’ website and comment there instead. It goes like this:-
“It annoys me that BBC radio and televison news reports this morning recounted how “Jean Charles de Menezes was accidentally shot by police……..”
What ACTUALLY happened was he was DELIBERATELY EXECUTED by police officers because he was wrongfully identified.
Both the poilce and government seem to think that if they put enough time between a miscarriage and its inquiry/inquest that the matter will “blow over”.
Everybody concerned in this matter should be aware that the public haven’t forgotton how this kid was murdered by the police and so far, justice hasn’t been done.
Most people are aware that the only fair verdict in this enquiry is “Unlawful Killing”. This is because the police absolutley cannot be allowed to run around executing INNOCENT members of the public without a single conviction. When an innocent is purposely killed, people need to be punished – it’s the law. Let’s see what happens next…….”
What I omitted from that post was that, even when it quite clear that an innocent had been killed, the metropolitan lie machine continued to churn out half truths , mis-directions and fiction, as noted in the IPCC investigation.
In conclusion, somebody somewhere is always going to want to deceive you – if you want the “real truth”, you have to look for it………
Chill out Shahid, try to find something that makes you laugh today.
Steve.
Akum Shahid and all.
I read EVERY every single comment on that thread you are referring to, which is rare for me, because I hardly ever go on the J7 TF, but decided to take a gander after a mention/link by StefZ.
I’ve encountered stuff like ApeD before, which usually sees me trying to scrape if off the bottom of my shoe moments later, but I hate to say it, but I feel his point should have been addressed directly early on, but wasn’t. I thought chipping in after 30+ pages wasn’t going to be useful so I didn’t comment. That his question wasn’t bluntly nailed allowed him to engage his rotspiel and appalling behaviour.
If a loon displayed that behaviour, the Bloggers from Brazil would doubtlessly be licking stamps on envelopes right now, addressed to that loons employers, containing a series of gross distortions, adding a dash of anti-Semitism here and a twist of holocaust denial there, to ensure that loon could never seek employment again. While I think all sides should avoid such actions (but know only one ’side’ would take such a noble stance) I am sure ApeD’s racist and threatening behaviour would be of great interest to his employer or his clients.
Personally, I feel there isn’t any evidence against Peter Power, but it is very clear that the information and knowledge he was privy to that day are of immense interest to a genuine and full understanding/report/inquiry as to what happened that day. There is also grounds for suspicion as to his role in that event as there is the possibility it was a most amazing of coincidences. To dismiss any thought of questioning Power under caution because it may be a miraculous coincidence is a gross failure of intellect.
It is not standard procedure for any person involved with (in whatever capacity) a serious event – of which 7-7 has few equals, to be questioned? Powers a) closeness to events of that day b) His track record of murky behaviour (some said outright that he is a liar) and c) that he did have something to gain from the events of that day automatically give him the status of being a key witness or even suspect in criminal proceedings.
To paraphrase one of the commentators arguing against ApeD, an independent and rigorous inquiry (which should have come into being by default after the bombings, as should a similarly stringent police criminal investigation) has as one of its responsibilities is to look for evidence of details of that event, and pass it to those responsible for any appropriate trial.
That the necessary inquiry didn’t happen; is actively being resisted; there are errors in the official narrative (which from observation, is greeted with a shrug of the shoulders by TPTB), is grounds alone for a proper inquiry, and in my eyes, is suggestion enough for currently believing 7-7 was an act of state conspiracy and state sponsored terrorism. As an independent observer who has investigated the TATP issue, I can make that claim with confidence. I do however, as one must, remain open about the uncertainties of 7-7 (such as was TATP actually used) and yes, possible grand coincidences, that the broad thrust of the official narrative could be correct. However, to staunchly uphold the narrative in it’s current form is the least ingenuous position anyone could adopt, and that is bereft of the whole Iraq story.
Although in some ways I find J7’s failure to focus on the strongest likelihood of 7-7 scenarios (whether it agrees with my view or otherwise), what they do is without question, the right stance to take, as it would do nothing other than serve to negate serious investigation into ALL possibilities. Their tireless work to do what the government fails to do should serve as an inspiration to all.
To end, the totally unjustified attacks on Bridget betrayed an steadfast character trait of ApeD. That of intimidatory & prejudicial nastiness. Discovering people like him does actually provide a positive, and that is: with slime like him, it makes the good humans on this suffering planet, e.g. what can be generally termed ‘truthers’, stand out all the more.
Cheerio.
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