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		<title>By: lwtc247</title>
		<link>http://suspectpaki.com/2008/09/21/the-shame-of-the-gatekeepers/comment-page-1/#comment-2860</link>
		<dc:creator>lwtc247</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akum Shahid and all.

I read EVERY every single comment on that thread you are referring to, which is rare for me, because I hardly ever go on the J7 TF, but decided to take a gander after a mention/link by StefZ.

I&#039;ve encountered stuff like ApeD before, which usually sees me trying to scrape if off the bottom of my shoe moments later, but I hate to say it, but I feel his point should have been addressed directly early on, but wasn&#039;t. I thought chipping in after 30+ pages wasn&#039;t going to be useful so I didn&#039;t comment. That his question wasn&#039;t bluntly nailed allowed him to engage his rotspiel and appalling behaviour.

If a loon displayed that behaviour, the Bloggers from Brazil would doubtlessly be licking stamps on envelopes right now, addressed to that loons employers, containing a series of gross distortions, adding a dash of anti-Semitism here and a twist of holocaust denial there, to ensure that loon could never seek employment again. While I think all sides should avoid such actions (but know only one &#039;side&#039; would take such a noble stance) I am sure ApeD&#039;s racist and threatening behaviour would be of great interest to his employer or his clients. 

Personally, I feel there isn&#039;t any evidence against Peter Power, but it is very clear that the information and knowledge he was privy to that day are of immense interest to a genuine and full understanding/report/inquiry as to what happened that day. There is also grounds for suspicion as to his role in that event as there is the possibility it was a most amazing of coincidences. To dismiss any thought of questioning Power under caution because it may be a miraculous coincidence is a gross failure of intellect.

It is not standard procedure for any person involved with (in whatever capacity) a serious event - of which 7-7 has few equals, to be questioned? Powers &lt;b&gt;a)&lt;/b&gt; closeness to events of that day &lt;b&gt;b)&lt;/b&gt; His track record of murky behaviour (some said outright that he is a liar) and &lt;b&gt;c)&lt;/b&gt; that he did have something to gain from the events of that day automatically give him the status of being a key witness or even suspect in criminal proceedings.

To paraphrase one of the commentators arguing against ApeD, an independent and rigorous inquiry (which should have come into being by default after the bombings, as should a similarly stringent police criminal investigation) has as one of its responsibilities is to look for evidence of details of that event, and pass it to those responsible for any appropriate trial. 

That the necessary inquiry didn&#039;t happen; is actively being resisted; there are errors in the official narrative (which from observation, is greeted with a shrug of the shoulders by TPTB), is grounds alone for a proper inquiry, and in my eyes, is suggestion enough for currently believing 7-7 was an act of state conspiracy and state sponsored terrorism. As an independent observer who has investigated the TATP issue, I can make that claim with confidence. I do however, as one must, remain open about the uncertainties of 7-7 (such as was TATP actually used) and yes, possible grand coincidences, that the broad thrust of the official narrative could be correct. However, to staunchly uphold the narrative in it’s current form is the least ingenuous position anyone could adopt, and that is bereft of the whole Iraq story.

Although in some ways I find J7&#039;s failure to focus on the strongest likelihood of 7-7  scenarios (whether it agrees with my view or otherwise), what they do is without question, the right stance to take, as it would do nothing other than serve to negate serious investigation into ALL possibilities. Their tireless work to do what the government fails to do should serve as an inspiration to all.

To end, the totally unjustified attacks on Bridget betrayed an steadfast character trait of ApeD. That of intimidatory &amp; prejudicial nastiness. Discovering people like him does actually provide a positive, and that is: with slime like him, it makes the good humans on this suffering planet, e.g. what can be generally termed ‘truthers’, stand out all the more.

Cheerio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akum Shahid and all.</p>
<p>I read EVERY every single comment on that thread you are referring to, which is rare for me, because I hardly ever go on the J7 TF, but decided to take a gander after a mention/link by StefZ.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve encountered stuff like ApeD before, which usually sees me trying to scrape if off the bottom of my shoe moments later, but I hate to say it, but I feel his point should have been addressed directly early on, but wasn&#8217;t. I thought chipping in after 30+ pages wasn&#8217;t going to be useful so I didn&#8217;t comment. That his question wasn&#8217;t bluntly nailed allowed him to engage his rotspiel and appalling behaviour.</p>
<p>If a loon displayed that behaviour, the Bloggers from Brazil would doubtlessly be licking stamps on envelopes right now, addressed to that loons employers, containing a series of gross distortions, adding a dash of anti-Semitism here and a twist of holocaust denial there, to ensure that loon could never seek employment again. While I think all sides should avoid such actions (but know only one &#8216;side&#8217; would take such a noble stance) I am sure ApeD&#8217;s racist and threatening behaviour would be of great interest to his employer or his clients. </p>
<p>Personally, I feel there isn&#8217;t any evidence against Peter Power, but it is very clear that the information and knowledge he was privy to that day are of immense interest to a genuine and full understanding/report/inquiry as to what happened that day. There is also grounds for suspicion as to his role in that event as there is the possibility it was a most amazing of coincidences. To dismiss any thought of questioning Power under caution because it may be a miraculous coincidence is a gross failure of intellect.</p>
<p>It is not standard procedure for any person involved with (in whatever capacity) a serious event &#8211; of which 7-7 has few equals, to be questioned? Powers <b>a)</b> closeness to events of that day <b>b)</b> His track record of murky behaviour (some said outright that he is a liar) and <b>c)</b> that he did have something to gain from the events of that day automatically give him the status of being a key witness or even suspect in criminal proceedings.</p>
<p>To paraphrase one of the commentators arguing against ApeD, an independent and rigorous inquiry (which should have come into being by default after the bombings, as should a similarly stringent police criminal investigation) has as one of its responsibilities is to look for evidence of details of that event, and pass it to those responsible for any appropriate trial. </p>
<p>That the necessary inquiry didn&#8217;t happen; is actively being resisted; there are errors in the official narrative (which from observation, is greeted with a shrug of the shoulders by TPTB), is grounds alone for a proper inquiry, and in my eyes, is suggestion enough for currently believing 7-7 was an act of state conspiracy and state sponsored terrorism. As an independent observer who has investigated the TATP issue, I can make that claim with confidence. I do however, as one must, remain open about the uncertainties of 7-7 (such as was TATP actually used) and yes, possible grand coincidences, that the broad thrust of the official narrative could be correct. However, to staunchly uphold the narrative in it’s current form is the least ingenuous position anyone could adopt, and that is bereft of the whole Iraq story.</p>
<p>Although in some ways I find J7&#8242;s failure to focus on the strongest likelihood of 7-7  scenarios (whether it agrees with my view or otherwise), what they do is without question, the right stance to take, as it would do nothing other than serve to negate serious investigation into ALL possibilities. Their tireless work to do what the government fails to do should serve as an inspiration to all.</p>
<p>To end, the totally unjustified attacks on Bridget betrayed an steadfast character trait of ApeD. That of intimidatory &amp; prejudicial nastiness. Discovering people like him does actually provide a positive, and that is: with slime like him, it makes the good humans on this suffering planet, e.g. what can be generally termed ‘truthers’, stand out all the more.</p>
<p>Cheerio.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Matthews</title>
		<link>http://suspectpaki.com/2008/09/21/the-shame-of-the-gatekeepers/comment-page-1/#comment-2856</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shahid,
It&#039;s become apparent to me, in recent years, that the (political) truth is &quot;whatever  you make people believe&quot;. I&#039;m not sure whether politicians have become more bulshit prone, people have become more gullible or if cynicism has started to activate portions of my brain that were previously switched off.
 I awoke this morning to BBC news (clearly, the zenith of truth) reports that ...............&quot; Jean Charles de Menezes was accidently shot by police.....&quot;
I checked the BBC news website and found that the words &quot;accidently shot&quot; were not present and that there was no option to leave a comment. On that basis, I had to go to sky news&#039; website and comment there instead. It goes like this:-

&quot;It annoys me that BBC radio and televison news reports this morning recounted how &quot;Jean Charles de Menezes was accidentally shot by police........&quot;

What ACTUALLY happened was he was DELIBERATELY EXECUTED by police officers because he was wrongfully identified.

Both the poilce and government seem to think that if they put enough time between a miscarriage and its inquiry/inquest that the matter will  &quot;blow over&quot;.

Everybody concerned in this matter should be aware that the public haven&#039;t forgotton how this kid was murdered by the police and so far, justice hasn&#039;t been done.

Most people are aware that the only fair verdict in this enquiry is &quot;Unlawful Killing&quot;. This is because the police absolutley cannot be allowed to run around executing INNOCENT members of the public without a single conviction. When an innocent is purposely killed, people need to be punished - it&#039;s the law. Let&#039;s see what happens next.......&quot;

What I omitted from that post was that, even when it quite clear that an innocent had been killed, the metropolitan lie machine continued to churn out half truths , mis-directions and fiction, as noted in the IPCC investigation.

In conclusion, somebody somewhere is always going to want to deceive you - if you want the &quot;real truth&quot;, you have to look for it.........

Chill out Shahid, try to find something that makes you laugh today.
Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shahid,<br />
It&#8217;s become apparent to me, in recent years, that the (political) truth is &#8220;whatever  you make people believe&#8221;. I&#8217;m not sure whether politicians have become more bulshit prone, people have become more gullible or if cynicism has started to activate portions of my brain that were previously switched off.<br />
 I awoke this morning to BBC news (clearly, the zenith of truth) reports that &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221; Jean Charles de Menezes was accidently shot by police&#8230;..&#8221;<br />
I checked the BBC news website and found that the words &#8220;accidently shot&#8221; were not present and that there was no option to leave a comment. On that basis, I had to go to sky news&#8217; website and comment there instead. It goes like this:-</p>
<p>&#8220;It annoys me that BBC radio and televison news reports this morning recounted how &#8220;Jean Charles de Menezes was accidentally shot by police&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>What ACTUALLY happened was he was DELIBERATELY EXECUTED by police officers because he was wrongfully identified.</p>
<p>Both the poilce and government seem to think that if they put enough time between a miscarriage and its inquiry/inquest that the matter will  &#8220;blow over&#8221;.</p>
<p>Everybody concerned in this matter should be aware that the public haven&#8217;t forgotton how this kid was murdered by the police and so far, justice hasn&#8217;t been done.</p>
<p>Most people are aware that the only fair verdict in this enquiry is &#8220;Unlawful Killing&#8221;. This is because the police absolutley cannot be allowed to run around executing INNOCENT members of the public without a single conviction. When an innocent is purposely killed, people need to be punished &#8211; it&#8217;s the law. Let&#8217;s see what happens next&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>What I omitted from that post was that, even when it quite clear that an innocent had been killed, the metropolitan lie machine continued to churn out half truths , mis-directions and fiction, as noted in the IPCC investigation.</p>
<p>In conclusion, somebody somewhere is always going to want to deceive you &#8211; if you want the &#8220;real truth&#8221;, you have to look for it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Chill out Shahid, try to find something that makes you laugh today.<br />
Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: jon doy</title>
		<link>http://suspectpaki.com/2008/09/21/the-shame-of-the-gatekeepers/comment-page-1/#comment-2855</link>
		<dc:creator>jon doy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb ! Shahid - i couldn&#039;t agree more or put it any better myself, that &#039;aped&#039; character seems confused to this day what he&#039;s done wrong, bless his little cotton socks

some day, perhaps he&#039;ll understand - or leave his job - it certainly appears as though you&#039;d need to be paid to be that much of a cunt

if i can say cunt here, that is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb ! Shahid &#8211; i couldn&#8217;t agree more or put it any better myself, that &#8216;aped&#8217; character seems confused to this day what he&#8217;s done wrong, bless his little cotton socks</p>
<p>some day, perhaps he&#8217;ll understand &#8211; or leave his job &#8211; it certainly appears as though you&#8217;d need to be paid to be that much of a cunt</p>
<p>if i can say cunt here, that is</p>
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		<title>By: Stef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people who are critical of &#039;conspiracy theorists&#039; do so simply because they have been programmed to do so.  Some critics might even have gone so far as to research things themselves but have still decided that &#039;conspiracies&#039; don&#039;t hold up

I personally wouldn&#039;t consider any of these people as wicked, just misguided

But there are others who are genuinely nasty pieces of work and who take advantage of the prevailing media negativity towards Muslims and any who doubt &#039;Official Narratives&#039; to work out and express their grubby little hang-ups and hatreds

The same kind of creeps who&#039;d pick on the weakest kid in the playground, once they&#039;d safely established that everyone else was ripping on that kid already</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people who are critical of &#8216;conspiracy theorists&#8217; do so simply because they have been programmed to do so.  Some critics might even have gone so far as to research things themselves but have still decided that &#8216;conspiracies&#8217; don&#8217;t hold up</p>
<p>I personally wouldn&#8217;t consider any of these people as wicked, just misguided</p>
<p>But there are others who are genuinely nasty pieces of work and who take advantage of the prevailing media negativity towards Muslims and any who doubt &#8216;Official Narratives&#8217; to work out and express their grubby little hang-ups and hatreds</p>
<p>The same kind of creeps who&#8217;d pick on the weakest kid in the playground, once they&#8217;d safely established that everyone else was ripping on that kid already</p>
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